Redesigning the Future of Public Education (with Dr. Katie Martin)

Dr. Katie Martin is the best-selling author of Learner-Centered Innovation. As the Co-CEO of Learner Centered Collaborative, Martin is helping schools redesign what public education looks like. 

In this episode, she dives into her experience as a teacher, leader, and former Alt School employee - and shares what is working right now in schools today across the country. 

What does it take to redesign school so students find meaning in their learning—and teachers have the time and support to make it happen?

We explore personalized learning, the challenges of changing school systems, and how AI could create more room for teachers to coach, connect, and support students. Throughout our conversation, Katie returns to a central idea: start with a clear vision for learners, then choose the tools and structures that help bring it to life.

What you’ll take away

• Devices alone don’t create engagement. Katie reflects on early one-to-one technology initiatives and what students said they missed: connection with their teachers.

• Personalized learning requires thoughtful design. AltSchool’s experience offers lessons about student goals, feedback, meaningful projects, and the workload involved in adopting new approaches.

• Lasting change starts with the community. Students, educators, families, and leaders help define success and shape the changes their schools need.

• A learner profile is a starting point. Bringing that vision to life means rethinking schedules, assessment, teacher collaboration, and learning experiences.

• Look for early signs of progress. Katie describes improvements in engagement, attendance, and belonging that can precede gains in academic achievement.

• Make student learning visible. Celebrations of learning give students a chance to share their growth—and help teachers see the impact of their work.

Episode chapters

• 00:00 — Meet Katie Martin

• 00:44 — What early technology rollouts missed

• 03:37 — Lessons from AltSchool’s personalized learning model

• 06:22 — The same mission, a different approach to change

• 07:37 — Why school districts matter

• 08:40 — Building a shared vision with the community

• 11:50 — Four pressures driving schools to rethink their approach

• 13:00 — Relevance, engagement, and staying the course

• 15:02 — How celebrations of learning shift mindsets

• 16:23 — AI’s role in freeing teachers to coach and connect

A question to bring to your team

What would change in your school if every student regularly shared what they learned, why it mattered, and how they grew?

Watch the full episode on YouTube. Subscribe to Next Gen Schools, share this conversation with a colleague, and leave a comment with one idea you’d like to try in your school.

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